Should I give the guild member the boot? - Guild Wars Forums

TalonTheCat · Jun 13, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

This weekend I had recuritied a new member for our PVE guild. He/She did ask to be invited and said "Hi" in guild chat that first day. However (you knew there had to be one) the account has been logged on for the last 24 hours (everytime I have hopped on) and while I don't require anyone in my guild to be chatty (or talk much), this person hasn't responded to direct whispers.

I worry that the person is using a bot - and I will NOT have this in my guild; however, I am also thinking... what if they just accidently left the game running.

I am leaning toward kicking tonight if the user is still on and not responding.

Do you think I am justified? Or being overly cautious?

Zakarr · Jun 13, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18

I would wait a day or two and then kick him/her if nothing change.

remmeh · Jun 13, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19

my guild leader leaves GW on 24/7

so i think you're a little cautious. but you never know...

<stereotype> does he/she have an asian-sounding name </stereotype>

Mournblade · Jun 13, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24

I wouldn't assume they are a bot until you saw them in person behaving like a bot. (Gosh, are they in Elona Reach alot? lol)

If, after a couple of days, they are still online and not responding to direct whispers I don't think you'd have any reason to feel guilty for kicking them. If they had a legit reason for being afk for three days, and they talk to you about it, you can always enroll them again.

generik · Jun 13, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

What I find intriguing is why would you assume first and foremost that s/he is a bot?

At times because of these intruding "hi"s I turn off guild chat or even set my status to "Offline" altogether. Don't you think you are being a bit too nosey?

TalonTheCat · Jun 13, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by remmeh

my guild leader leaves GW on 24/7

so i think you're a little cautious. but you never know...

<stereotype> does he/she have an asian-sounding name </stereotype>

Lol, my being over cautious is noted.

No asian sounding name - not even a I-am-trying-to-not-sound-asian-but-fail names that some bots have.

striderkaaru · Jun 13, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46

give it some time. it's only been a day. maybe he/she did leave it on.

TalonTheCat · Jun 13, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by generik

What I find intriguing is why would you assume first and foremost that s/he is a bot?

At times because of these intruding "hi"s I turn off guild chat or even set my status to "Offline" altogether. Don't you think you are being a bit too nosey?

Nosey? well... could be!

I have a few guild members who after I invited I only speak to about once a month, even though they are on. I don't mind it, some people are private and I respect that.

This is just the first member I have had that stayed logged on ALL the time. Could very well be that is just what they do, if so, I will respect that too.

Just with all the BOT crazieness as of late - I just don't want to have a member that is taking advantage of a 3rd party program and my NPC full guild hall.

Cador · Jun 13, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalonTheCat

Nosey? well... could be!

I have a few guild members who after I invited I only speak to about once a month, even though they are on. I don't mind it, some people are private and I respect that.

This is just the first member I have had that stayed logged on ALL the time. Could very well be that is just what they do, if so, I will respect that too.

Just with all the BOT crazieness as of late - I just don't want to have a member that is taking advantage of a 3rd party program and my NPC full guild hall.

Do u stay logged on 24/7 to watch him and make sure, how do you know he doesnt have odd sleeping patterns?

TalonTheCat · Jun 13, 2006, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Nope, as I said in the first message - when I am logged on - which is usually 3 times a day during the week: 7AM, 6PM and 10PM.

I am fully aware they I could and am over reacting

I posted this more out of curiosity of what others would do if they suspected a bot in their guild.

Cador · Jun 13, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11

I personally leave it be and say, oh well if its a bot hell get banned, if it isnt hes a heavy gamer.

tommarrow · Jun 13, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Why would a farm bot need to join a guild?

Atomheart · Jun 13, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Fell asleep on the keyboard...Has all chats disabled...Cant understand you...Is dead...Is a bot. I would wait a day or two and then decide.

TalonTheCat · Jun 13, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommarrow

Why would a farm bot need to join a guild?

Trying to "blend in" - use the guild hall - not be a full time botter - just a person using a bot program?

Cottage Pie · Jun 13, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

I'd kick them, why be in a guild if you never speak to anyone?

Nite_Creeper · Jun 13, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

If he's not contributing to the guild in anyway I dont see the need to keep him around... that's just my opinion

Demesis · Jun 13, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nite_Creeper

If he's not contributing to the guild in anyway I dont see the need to keep him around... that's just my opinion

^^^ This dude has a point...

Witchblade · Jun 13, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

check Elona / Droks .. maybe u ll see him

eudas · Jun 13, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38

On a similar vein, I have a guild member who logs on occasionally, but I never see him. I haven't spoken to him in over a month. When do you decide to boot someone? Do you boot them due to inactivity? Do you boot them because they're never on when anybody else is? Do you boot them because they serve no use to the guild if there's never interaction with them?

eudas

kryshnysh · Jun 13, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Once had someone on for three straight days. At the end, it finally said they were offline.... and hadn't been on in two days! Very confusing.

Jun 13, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14	#1
TalonTheCat Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Guild: Black Cat Guild Profession: Mo/	Should I give the guild member the boot? This weekend I had recuritied a new member for our PVE guild. He/She did ask to be invited and said "Hi" in guild chat that first day. However (you knew there had to be one) the account has been logged on for the last 24 hours (everytime I have hopped on) and while I don't require anyone in my guild to be chatty (or talk much), this person hasn't responded to direct whispers. I worry that the person is using a bot - and I will NOT have this in my guild; however, I am also thinking... what if they just accidently left the game running. I am leaning toward kicking tonight if the user is still on and not responding. Do you think I am justified? Or being overly cautious?

Jun 13, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18	#2
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	I would wait a day or two and then kick him/her if nothing change.

Jun 13, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19	#3
remmeh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Apathy Inc [AI] Profession: R/Mo	my guild leader leaves GW on 24/7 so i think you're a little cautious. but you never know... <stereotype> does he/she have an asian-sounding name </stereotype>

Jun 13, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24	#4
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	I wouldn't assume they are a bot until you saw them in person behaving like a bot. (Gosh, are they in Elona Reach alot? lol) If, after a couple of days, they are still online and not responding to direct whispers I don't think you'd have any reason to feel guilty for kicking them. If they had a legit reason for being afk for three days, and they talk to you about it, you can always enroll them again.

Jun 13, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40	#5
generik Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005	What I find intriguing is why would you assume first and foremost that s/he is a bot? At times because of these intruding "hi"s I turn off guild chat or even set my status to "Offline" altogether. Don't you think you are being a bit too nosey?

Jun 13, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46	#7
striderkaaru Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer Profession: W/	give it some time. it's only been a day. maybe he/she did leave it on.

Jun 13, 2006, 02:07 PM // 14:07	#10
TalonTheCat Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Guild: Black Cat Guild Profession: Mo/	Nope, as I said in the first message - when I am logged on - which is usually 3 times a day during the week: 7AM, 6PM and 10PM. I am fully aware they I could and am over reacting I posted this more out of curiosity of what others would do if they suspected a bot in their guild.

Jun 13, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11	#11
Cador Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Relax Its Just A [GAME] Profession: R/E	I personally leave it be and say, oh well if its a bot hell get banned, if it isnt hes a heavy gamer.

Jun 13, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14	#12
tommarrow Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Shyft Machine [MYTH] Profession: E/	Why would a farm bot need to join a guild?

Jun 13, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14	#13
Atomheart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Rt/	Fell asleep on the keyboard...Has all chats disabled...Cant understand you...Is dead...Is a bot. I would wait a day or two and then decide.

Jun 13, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02	#15
Cottage Pie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Birmingham, England Guild: Taking Aegis Profession: Mo/Me	I'd kick them, why be in a guild if you never speak to anyone?

Jun 13, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08	#16
Nite_Creeper Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland Guild: [LaZy] Profession: D/A	If he's not contributing to the guild in anyway I dont see the need to keep him around... that's just my opinion

Jun 13, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35	#18
Witchblade Polar Bear Attendant Join Date: May 2005	check Elona / Droks .. maybe u ll see him

Jun 13, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38	#19
eudas Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tx, USA Guild: The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE] Profession: W/	On a similar vein, I have a guild member who logs on occasionally, but I never see him. I haven't spoken to him in over a month. When do you decide to boot someone? Do you boot them due to inactivity? Do you boot them because they're never on when anybody else is? Do you boot them because they serve no use to the guild if there's never interaction with them? eudas

Jun 13, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39	#20
kryshnysh Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Valkyrie Einherjar Profession: Mo/	Once had someone on for three straight days. At the end, it finally said they were offline.... and hadn't been on in two days! Very confusing.